Fw-190: 1.58 Spitfire: 1.36 P-51: 1.35 Now as for Cd0, well we have Spitfire 109's which is: Bf-109K: ~0.021 Spitfire: 0.0229 Bf-109G: 0.023 Now the P-51 Fw-190 undoubtedly have lower Cd0 figures. Quote Reply. Your email address will not be published. After firing a burst of tracer at me he bore down on Martell. Bf-109 vs P-47 fw-190-wurger. Spitfire vs Bf 109, Battle of Britain by Tony Holmes, Osprey Publishing, Oxford, England, 2007, $17.95. The Fw 190 was compared with an operational Spitfire Mk VB for speed and allround anoeuvrability at heights up to 25,000 ft. The myth comes from the fact that some planes, like the FW-190's, P-51/47, F4U, and Typhoon have very poor energy retention, meaning they bleed speed very quickly, while others like the Ki-84, 109's, La-7's, Yak-3's, hold their speed very well, meaning they do not slow down as quickly while holding 6G turns. In 1942 the Luftwaffe’s Focke-Wulf Fw 190 was gaining the edge over Allied fighters, and it was an urgent priority to capture an example. Let’s forget the A-Bomb – even though it was designed/meant … The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 ranks with the Supermarine Spitfire, Vought F4U Corsair and North American P-51 Mustang as one of the best fighters of World War II. The changing nature of the air war over Europe drove a slew of upgrade programmes for both aircraft. Fw-190 vs Bf-109 bf-109. The Royal Air Force (RAF) Spitfire V had dominated aerial combat since it first entered the fighting in February 1941. The first response to this threat was the Mk VIII, but this aircraft involved a significant redesign of the basic Spitfire, and would take time to produce in the numbers required.. Flown by Hauptmann Joachim Müncheberg, Stab II./JG 26, Abbeville-Drucat/France, April 29, 1942 . At 21,000 ft [6400 m] the FW 190 and the Spitfire are approximately the same At 25,000 ft [7622 m] the Spitfire IX is 5-7 mph [8-11 km/hr] faster than the FW 190. There has been some mention of how the Spitfire was modified to respond to the threat posed by the appearance of the FW-190 in the summer of 1941. The Focke-Wulf 190 was the work of a team of German designers headed by the famous Kurt Tank. I havn't found them online yet. CAPTCHA Code * Recent Posts. Bf-109 vs Zero fw-190-wurger. Bf-109 vs P-38 a6m-zero. Fw-190 vs P-51 p-47-thunderbolt. A German Focke-Wulf Fw 190. The Spitfire, Hurricane, and Fw-190, with their “vertical” landing gear and heavier structures, fared much better. Their small wings giving the Fw 190D great speed but not so much manoeuvrability and climb. With its speed and maneuverability, it had become a menace that the Luftwaffe could not match. Hans Eisenberg flying a FW 190 D-9 of 13./JG 26 on 30 March 1945 . Ki-84 vs P-51 p-51-mustang. I identified it at once-it was a Focke-Wulf 190. Leave A Reply. P-40 vs Spitfire p-40-warhawk. Leave A Reply. In the dive the Fw 190 could leave the Spitfire Mk. Armin Faber of 7./JG2 landed his FW 190A-3 at RAF Pembrey by mistake on 23/6/42 he had engaged in combat with Spitfire VBs of 310(Czech) Sqn, shooting one down. Bf-109 vs Spitfire vs Fw-190 vs P-51 Thread starter Soren; Start ... Fw-190 vets certainly describe no problems in high G turns, noting that the a/c "kurved" (turned) very well. Spitfire vs. Messerschmitt Bf 109. Topic: Spitfire vs Armin Faber's FW 190 (Read 24798 times) NZTyphoon. I hope they will correct this in 1.39 ... Edited March 5, 2014 by NoirLotus. Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-2. So I just finished a game in RB where I was in the Fw190 D-9 and I was going 1v1 against the American Spitfire. The superior rate of roll of the FW 190 enabled it to avoid the Spitfire IX by turning over into a diving turn in the opposite direction. ABILITY TO UPGRADE . Share this post. Your email address will not be published. Air Vice-Marshal Leight-Mallory, the commander of the 11. May 30, 2011 Cape Canaveral. Leave A Reply. Cancel Reply. Cancel Reply. Bf-109 vs P-38 p-38-lightning. The arrival of the Fw190 turned things around. There were plans to equip the Fw 190D with the TSA 2D toss bombing sight. CAPTCHA Code * Recent Posts. The German fighter response came from JG 26 and JG 2, both equipped with the Fw 190. P-38 vs Fw-190 p-38-lightning. Member Posts: 68. Challenging the Spitfire. P-38 vs P-47 f4u-corsair. P-38 vs P-47 a6m-zero. I have the feeling that A-8 has the FM of Fw 190 A-5, so being outclassed by Spitfire LF Mk IX is not a surprise. Jr. 101. A notice distributed to Spitfire Mk V pilots in the Middle East titled ‘Who’s Afraid of the Little Focke Wulf’ echoed these instructions and emphasised the turning ability of the Spitfire against the Focke-Wulf: ‘The Spitfire V’s only tactical advantage over the F.W. May 28, 2008. Manoeuvrability: The FW 190 is more manoeuvrable than the Spitfire IX except in turning circles. P-51 Mustang vs Fw 190, Europe 1943-1945 by Martin Bowman, Osprey Publishing, Oxford, England, 2007, $17.95. Thread starter #134. Spitfire XIV RM727 of 402 Squadron was flown by F/L H. Cowan when he shot down & killed Fw. since,to my knowledge the corsair and hellcat never actually fought an fw-190, i find it odd they would test these … For a while Quill was on standby to be taken to France in order to hijack a Fw190 back to England. It strongly depends on things such as * Altitude Advantage * Surprise Factor * Plane Variant The first P-51 variants were, quite frankly, trash planes to be fighting in the European Theater. Does … I had not studied the photos and recognition charts so often for nothing. Show Only Poster Name and Title Newest to Oldest ripsaw RE:US Navy test. He also sates that the Fw-190 and the Yak-1, -3, -9 series of Russian planes were string contenders, but that too little data on sorties and bombs dropped were available for the Yaks, and that the Fw-190 was, in his opinion, a very close second to the Thunderbolt. P-38 vs Zero Prev Next . Polish Wing, Northolt/England, April 29, 1942. IX without difficulty and there was no gainsaying that in so far as maneuverability was concerned the German fighter was markedly the superior of the two in all save the tight horizontal turn – the Spitfire Mk. 190 in the air is its ability to turn in a smaller circle, but that’s a lot’. Spitfire Vs FW-190 Thread starter MIflyer; Start date Sep 15, 2020; Sep 15, 2020. Your email address will not be published. Dive: The FW 190 is faster than the Spitfire IX in a dive, particularly during the initial stage. Your email address will not be published. Sep 15, 2020 #1. P-47 vs Spitfire p-40-warhawk. 2,367 1,425 113. By the time the USAAF would have send the B-29’s to Germany (Thank God it never happened) it would have maybe been around August/September 45. Link to post Share on other sites. The Fw 190 is superior in speed at all heights, and the approximate ifferences are as follows:-At 2,000 ft (610 m) the Fw 190 is 25-30 mph (40-48 km/h) faster than the Spitfire Mk VB . The RAF committed a massive force to this battle, including forty two squadrons of Spitfire Vs, two of Spitfire VIs and four of Spitfire IXs. CAPTCHA Code * Recent Posts. Hello Soren, I don’t know Soren. Thread starter #1. And now for some out-of-schedule aviation geekiness: Yesterday I encoutnered an off-hand comment about whether the Spitfire or the Messerschmitt (understood to be the Bf 109) was the superior fighter. Supermarine Spitfire Mk V . Early Mark IXBs of 611 Squadron based at Biggin Hill in late 1942. P-38 vs Fw-190 Prev Next . And with its completely bugged DM, A-8 is really a PitA to fly, even if it has a really great fire power. This superiority is not as marked as with the Spitfire VB. Fw 190 vs Spitfire Mk VB. Flown by Wing Commander Marian Pisarek, No 1. The Spitfire Mk IX was originally developed as a stopgap measure as a response to the appearance of the Focke-Wulf FW 190A. A test pilot at Rolls Royce, Ronald Harker suggested replacing the Allison V12 with the new Merlin 61 which was fitted to the Spitfire Mk9 and which was now able to outperform the FW-190. The Fw 190D13 EB was clearly faster than a Spitfire F.22 by 20mph. Fw-190 vs P-47 bf-109. ‘I got into line astern, slightly above an Fw 190 and opened fire with a short burst from about 400 yards using half-a-ring of deflection. Leave A Reply. The Mk IX provided an alternative solution to the problem. M. MIflyer Master Sergeant. F4U vs Fw-190 Prev Next . On April 11, 2015 October 30, 2015 By Corporal Frisk In Air, Historical. German luftwaffe Fw-190 and British spitfire duke it out over the skies of Africa. Yak-3 vs P-51 Prev Next . Cancel Reply. I closed the range, and when within 200 yards fired a short burst and another at very close range of 20 yards using a full ring of deflection. With its two-stage supercharger, the Merlin 61 not only had more power at 20,000ft than the Allison had at takeoff it used about half the amount of fuel. And the 190 also gave plenty of warning of the stall if the ailerons were properly adjusted, which a number of captured examples weren't. P-40 vs P-51 ki-84. I claim one FW 190 DESTROYED. Towards the end of the game I was critically damaged and decided to head back to base. He specifically enumerated the faults with the P-38, F4U, P-51, Spitfire, Bf-109, and other aircraft. Fw-190 vs P-47 bf-109. Now tell me if you think I'm terribly off Bill but would I be wrong in your mind to presume that the P-51 has a Cd0 of 0.0168 and the Fw190 one of 0.0185 ?? The FW-190's early fights with Spitfire Vs are mentioned as part of the FW-190's development story, but its performance on other fronts is not discussed. The Fw 190 blew up — I could not avoid the explosion but broke to starboard as I flew through it.’ Cancel Reply. spitfire; vs; Boeing186 16 Boeing186 16 Sergeant; World War Tester; 16 104 posts; Gender: Male; Interests: Boeing; 6890 Report post; Posted September 6, 2015. Bf-109 vs P-47 bf-109. Similarly, the P-51 is only described in terms of its fights with the FW-190, so there's nothing about how it stacked up against other planes. Spitfire vs Armin Faber's FW 190 « on: December 14, 2008, 01:28:39 PM » I remember reading somewhere that before Oblt. The real competitor for the Spitfire F.22 is the Ta 152 B and H series with its larger wings. Supermarine Spitfire MK Vb . CAPTCHA Code * Recent Posts. FW-190 vs F4-U & F6F 2/23/2005 1:40:02 AM. 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