So far the comments on local news outlets’ web sites have been running heavily in defense of the event, saying that pilots, officials and fans all know the inherent risks and should be free to choose to run them. Four days after the tragic plane crash at the Reno National Championships air show in Reno, Nev., which killed 11 and injured 70, churches are still full with Christians seeking solace and looking to mourn the victims. (Video footage on this site.) HANS devices and “safer barriers” are invented, etc. This is highly dangerous!!! "They were flying like missiles, bullets through the air, and for about half a mile down the tarmac, it was just pieces of airplane. And there’s nothing Within 24 hours of the Reno air crash, the pilot of another plane died in a crash in Martinsburg, W.Va., on Saturday. There are solid rules in effect that outlaw projecting the energy of the aircraft "The way I see it, if he did do something about this, he saved hundreds if not thousands of lives because he was able to veer that plane back toward the tarmac," said Johnny Norman, who was at the show. First of all, Larry to Larry, I agree with you whole heartedly. My dad was a US Navy carrier pilot in WWII flying Grumman TBF Avenger torpedo bombers. Like the decision to participate in racing or any sport. Maybe safety concerns should be revisited or These accidents strenthen the efforts of organizers The National Championship Air Races have been deadly before. so that accidental deaths are few and far between. why don’t we cripple the economic benefits of this entertainment product in the name of safety. don’t want your children to see it, then please don’t go. like winning, or putting on a good show. As with any such environment, "The propeller (was) spinning very fast, and there was a lot of mass coming down all at once," he said. Your opinion, The hospitals have certainly geared up and staffed up to deal with it.". The Reno Gazette-Journal reported that prior to Friday's crash,17 people had been killed at the air races since their start 1964. No, you don’t have to show up the next day for round 2. FAQ; Search . )It is already the deadliest crash in American air-racing history. reno you cannot cut the risk entirely out of any sport. Reno Air Race crash: plane modified for increased speed . When the aircraft hit the ground, there was a "big explosion but no fire," O'Brien said. It is a priority for CBC to create a website that is accessible to all Canadians including people with visual, hearing, motor and cognitive challenges. is because we take chances and learn from the experience. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. Some credit the pilot with preventing the crash from being far more deadly. If we chose to participate in, or watch air shows and auto races, so be They have, in fact, paid with their lives for “Take care of the little details and the big details will take of them self.” It’s been my Leeward's pilot's medical records were up-to-date, and he was "a very qualified, very experienced pilot," Houghton said. If you can’t bear the thought of seeing someone crash, or you There wasn't any piece bigger than a foot.". It’s a well calculated risk on the part of the participants. Chances are the guy that got killed Gimme a break. We all know the risks, we all know the rewards. But to the comments posted by G, don’t go if you don’t want to. Our local economy depends By comparison, NTSB reports that there have been 244 fatal accidents so far this year. That is your decision to show up or not. Until Friday’s crash, the annual, five-day air race in Reno, which generates tens of millions of dollars for the local economy, had claimed the lives of 19 pilots since 1972. an opinion and doesn’t effect a great event. Disturbing events to watch to be sure, but they in no way diminished my That’s your right, to go or not to go. a necessary part of the American cultural landscape. I am not kidding you. I don’t race and fly very little lately, but I do admire and respect those who do. I strongly urge the Star columnist to re-evaluate the situation. Lets ban all racing,, air, auto, & boat.. In an interview with the Ocala, Fla., Star-Banner last year, he described how he he'd flown 250 types of planes and had a particular fondness for the P-51, which came into the war relatively late and was used as a long-range bomber escort over Europe. do u still watch shuttle this right. Advanced search A spokesman for Reno's National Championship Air Races says the P-51 Mustang that crashed into a box seat area at the front of the grandstand Friday, Sept. 16, 2011, at the air race … then what’s life all about anyway? "More speed, more challenge. But there are a lot of people who would show up because they want to. Professionals to a degree that most people can not comprehend. So, I do not attend. For aviation’s sake, I hope not. Compare Video and photos of the crash were captured by several people in the stands, and the horrific images of the wreckage were transmitted around the world within minutes. to detail doing a pre flight inspection is second to no other inspection in the world. I believe that every accident is Who regulates air shows and takes licenses away from pilots who take risks? "Everybody knows him. The point here is the FAA has stringent safety factors installed at every Airshow and the Reno Air Races are no exception, A few have speculated about inadequate safety procedures or bemoaned the fact that large groups of school children are often in the grandstand for the races and could be traumatized by witnessing a deadly crash, though appreciated by some, is not tempered with the same expertise of those in the aviation and safey industry. Airshows should be cancelled or rearranged entirely to cut out fatality in any event. Pilot Jimmy Leeward,%uFEFF 74, of Ocala, Fla., a veteran airman and stunt pilot who named his P-51 Mustang fighter plane the "Galloping Ghost". Closed Captioning and Described Video is available for many CBC shows offered on CBC Gem. to try to express an opinion to stop this event because a biker or motorcyclist looses there life? have a major passion for them.. I certainly don’t think air racing should be banned, but I do feel, that as in auto racing, it should be made as safe as possible. A doctor who witnessed the crash said the scene looked like a "a war zone" as people were struck by parts of the shattered plane. Read more…, The family of an Egyptian journalist detained for nine months without charge expressed outrage that images of him were leaked to a Facebook page run by Interior Ministry sympathizers.Read more…, One of the stars of “Happy in Tehran,” an exuberant music video that offended the sensibilities of Iran’s conservative judiciary, reported on Instagram Wednesday that she was free.Read more…, Six young Iranians were arrested and forced to repent on state television Tuesday for the grievous offense of proclaiming themselves to be “Happy in Tehran,” in a homemade music video they posted on YouTube. that to the tens of thousands of fatal car accidents every year and see who has the better safety record. Pilots follow an oval path around pylons, with distances and speeds depending on the class of aircraft. and participants to improve the safety of the sport. I hope not. Renown Regional Medical Center spokeswoman Kathy Carter confirmed that two others besides the pilot died, but did not provide their identities. (See a list of the victims here. It is always sad to see a fatality, much less 3 in a week, but banning airshows because of it is preposterous. Reno air race crash Our goal is to create a safe and engaging place for users to connect over interests and passions. A team from the NTSB arrived from Washington to join regional officials. On Tuesday evening, the pilot of a biplane was killed in a crash shortly after takeoff for a practice run. passion for aviation. the potential for catastrophy is surely there at 7000 feet with balloons all around you. It’s like jumping out of perfectly good air plane. wouldn’t want people to stop coming to the shows otherwise, his death was for nothing. I think it's one of the clearer videos of the crash, so I hope it helps bring people peace. if you dont want to watch then stay at home and watch your grass grow. Federal investigators are looking into what caused a 74-year-old pilot to lose control of his Second World War-era plane and crash near spectators at a Nevada air race in an accident that killed at least nine people and sent dozens to the hospital. My vote is no. Everybody has a choice and is responsible for there choice, thats all there is to it. Guys, you’re not thinking straight, as far as I can tell! I have What if your 200lb body suddenly weighs 2400lbs (200 * 12g) and your 10lb head now weighs 120lbs. Readers are encouraged to take part in the blogging by using the comments threads to suggest links to relevant material elsewhere on the Web or by submitting eyewitness accounts, photographs or video of news events. Road driving has rules, barriers and speed limits to reduce the risk of driving. One of the three pilots apparently bailed out safely. Do not the rules and concerns apply to all flights? Air racing is billed as "the world's fastest motor sport" and Reno is one of the few remaining venues. Why do folks like to attend airshows, car races and the likes? The National Championship Air Races are held every year in September in Reno. Among the famous pilots of the hot new fighter was WWII double ace Chuck Yeager. Proper briefing makes a lot of difference in the safety aspect of any air show.Risks are alway a major factor in any thing that goes in the sky more particularly if you a test pilot or a sky jumper.That does’nt Why should sports flying be allowed to be so risky when commercial passenger flying is made as safe as possible? slowly, learn our lessons and understand that controversy sells newspapers. It’s controlled fear. O'Brien, who is chair of an air show in his hometown in California, was photographing Friday's races when the crash occurred. Normal car drivers do not have groups of spectators to run into when they do road driving. Reno police on Saturday raised the death toll in the crash of a World War II-era plane at an air race, bringing the total to 9, including the pilot. That is your decission and keep it to yourself. impose a greater risk to the audience than some other sports. one does not almost guarantee a crash. If you crunch the numbers, just about anything you do can be considered “dangerous”. In checking the NHTSA 2006 Traffic Safety Annual Assessment fatalities were reduced by 868 to 42,642 from 2005. Getting in your car in the morning single fatality. Do you really think I can watch someone die in front of me and turn up the next day for He said seven bodies were still on the tarmac including that of the pilot. My dad explained to me at the time that each pilot that performs at air shows willingly accepts the risks involved. Air show fatalities will never be entirely eliminated. You betcha! Read more…, Security-camera footage obtained by a rights group appears to show the fatal shooting of two young Palestinians during a demonstration in Beitunia, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.Read more…, The aftermath of the second crash, on Thursday. There have been safety concerns in the past, with four pilots killed in 2007 and 2008. flying team was killed in a crash this spring. Gov. I mean no disprect to your sir or ma’am, but to suggest airshows should be cancelled entirely is ludicrous. That’s “were,” past tense, at least for the moment, because all competition was suspended this morning after a midair collision during a Formula One light-plane race left one pilot, a champion racer, His website says he has flown more than 120 races and served as a stunt pilot for numerous movies, including "Amelia" and "Cloud Dancer.". Small pieces of "shrapnel" were sent through the air at bullet speed, Gerald Lent told CBC News. stop people form performing such acts. It was the third-deadliest airshow disaster in U.S. history, following accidents in 1972 and 1951. Brian Sandoval noted at a news conference that area hospitals were in need of blood in the wake of the crash, and he encouraged people to donate. He did not elaborate. Last week was the “Great Reno Balloon race”. Family members were at the air show and saw the crash, said Mike Houghton, the Reno Air Races president and CEO. That freedom includes the right to choose. Copyright © 2007 Reno Air Racing Association. Seeing Bob Hoover As thousands watched in horror, the P-51 Mustang suddenly pitched upward, rolled and nose-dived toward the crowded grandstand Friday. some times the edge is crossed and the result is tragedy. A lethal combination of worn aircraft parts and unprecedented speed caused last year's Reno Air Races crash, NTSB investigators concluded Monday. And at least they are doing what they love to do. I’ll wind down now and step off of my soap box. in to the global conversation about the news taking place online. The free forums are a great place to express personal opinions, but to the individual that said “Airshows should be cancelled or rearranged entrirely to cut out fatality in any event”. The second crash in three days has forced the suspension of the Reno National Championship Air Races.. On Tuesday a biplane stalled shortly after takeoff and crashed, killing the pilot Steve Dari from Lemon Grove during a practice run at the Reno National Championship Air Races.. Brad Morehouse was “killed instantly” when his jet crashed on Thursday. The accident occurred about halfway through the sport class race. towards the crowd. It should be possible to make pylons stable enough to mark the course, but “soft” enough that hitting The comparisons are not exact but relevant. The pilots, spectators, everyone involved know the risks, and if The reason why this country leads the world in technology is the only place in the world where someone can hear an o200 turning at 4200 rpm, or a merlin running at 150″ of manifold pressure. No one has ever had a gun put to their head and forced to participate. in crashes during the week. fly his yellow P-51 through a series of precision aerobatics is a cherished memory of mine, just one of many. I believe it is the thrill of watching performances that run close to the edge; testing human skill and machine design. While were are at it, lets ban all motor vechiles because I don’t want to turn on the TV and watch the aftermath of a freeway wreck.. The Lede is a blog that remixes national and international news stories -- adding information gleaned from the Web or gathered through original reporting -- to supplement articles in The New York Times and draw readers The only accident I witnessed in the 70s where an F-101 Voodoo caught on fire during a performance (a machine problem rather than pilot error). advocate to limit my personal choices. But there will be accidents long after I am gone. North American P-51D-25-NA "Deja Vu" ("Race 56"), N51U (ex-44-74204), piloted by William A. Speer Jr., suffered a propeller failure and crashed during the Reno Air Races, killing Speer. The people that organize and put on such great events are professionals. says above: “If we chose to participate in, or watch ” then it is our choice and we are aware of the possible consequences, as a participant or spectator.. We do these things because we After three separate deadly crashes at one event, will there be calls to shut down the races down as too dangerous? UPDATE Sunday, Sept. 16, 11:09 p.m. Eastern. The Reno Air Races resumed on Saturday and completed competition on Sunday, when organizers held a moment of silence for the three pilots killed in crashes during the week. Because of my exposure to this enviroment, though many years ago, I’ve become a believer of. Rosekind says investigators have recovered "a component" which may or may not have caused the crash.. Tim O'Brien of Grass Valley, Calif., who is chairman of an air show in his hometown and photographed Friday's races, said Leeward's plane was racing six other planes and was in the process of moving from third place into second when it pitched violently upward, rolled and then headed straight down. Look at the numbers and they It was gore. The people that organize, put on the events and perform in the airshows across the country are absolute and consumate professionals. Whether they involve racing, stunts, cutting-edge planes or historic old crates, air shows are about putting on an exciting flying exhibition where a crowd can watch — in a small area, close to the ground — and that has made them prone to calamity over the years. UPDATE Sunday, Sept. 16, 11:09 p.m. Eastern. The fiery crash killed 10 spectators and Leeward. A vintage P51 Mustang crashed into spectator seating at the Reno National Air Races earlier today. -Nor can you say that there are always risks in flying and compare these flying races and acrobatics to flying commercial airlines. -the video of the mid-air crash I saw had planes going in opposite directions plus a third coming straight down from still another direction. It happens every year. Thousands of bikers and motorcycle enthusiasts will roll into Reno for one of the top 6 motorcyle events in the country. It was a "very violent impact.". life motto for many years. which were underway this week. And organizers softened two of the curves pilots negotiate after two more pilots crashed into nearby neighbourhoods in 1998 and 1999. I personally witnessed the skill of the departed, Gary Hubler, both at Reno and from the back seat of a T-6. If it does not interest one, then go find something else to do. This has been the United States' deadliest air race disaster. willing to take them, should have to the right to do so. Earlier, board spokesman Terry Williams said it's too early to say what caused the crash, though event organizers suggested a mechanical problem. Nearly a year has passed since pilot Jimmy Leeward lost control of his modified P-51 during the Reno Air Races and plummeted into the crowd. What right do you have to use the air to risk killing yourself and others? As others have said, though, the people who participate know they are doing something very dangerous, just as the very well educated people who fly in the Space Shuttle realize that each time they fly, there is It’s not my intent to offend anyone, but please keep in mind. Does the event continue? about a one in fifty chance they will die. Box 500 Station A Toronto, ON Canada, M5W 1E6. The Second World War-era plane that plummeted into the crowd at the Reno air race had been rebuilt for speed, it has emerged. I for one am unwilling to give away the freedoms afforded me by Racing was suspended for the rest of Thursday, but was allowed to resume today; organizers say they expect to resume their race schedule on the weekend. Read more. This is a video of the tragic crash at the 2011 Reno Air Races. Should we as a society place limits on these events, on each other? RENO -- Two airplanes collided in the air Friday at the Reno National Championship Air Races, killing one pilot and injuring another in the third fatal crash there in four days. Speed, speed and more speed. Two pilots died at the event in 1994. the plane long enough to get over open terrain, where they ejected safely (although with some burn injuries); the two halves of the airplane landed in a cornfield near Sumas, Washington. Everyday, 24/7, men and women put their lives on the line in our militaty to defend or freedom. "Obviously, he had no control. poster makes this noteworthy point about two popular motor sports: In a race car, you can hit a tire wall and come out unscathed, in a plane, you have nothing but the hard ground (sometimes water) to hit. I’m sure there are countless others who would echo the same thoughts. Air Shows should be so governed. tell all, I have flown in many airshows (Confederate Air Force) and I never found them to be dangerous IF PROPERLY BRIEFED so each pilot knew what was going on. Governments have always made Let’s let More race car drivers are killed driving to and from the racetracks than during the races each year and I’ll bet it’s the same for pilots so should we "They're more fun," Leeward said. Gary’s love of flying is renowned (Bill Stead was killed in a Formula One race in Florida shortly after the 1965 races. One We have individual choices; go or don’t go. The pilot and navigator were able to stay with "He's been here for a long, long time.". feel safe and enjoy that life. Particularly those in the air show industry. The aircraft, which was also involved in the 21 August 1979 and 29 September 1990 crashes, is under restoration as of 2001. Friends of Leeward said he was a skilled airman and member of a tight-knit flying community. Unbelievable gore.". If we are “banned” from doing things we love, things we’ve been doing for years and years and are now suddenly “banned”, Houghton said hours after the crash that there appeared to be a "problem with the aircraft that caused it to go out of control." TOGGLE_NAV WELCOME_INDEX, Bing [Bot] UCP_PROFILE; UCP_MESSAGES 0; Notifications ; MAIN_FORUM . The death toll in the terrifying crash of a World War II-era plane during a Reno air race has risen to at least 11 people. would you rather we cancel all entertainment involving high risk situations? Reno, Nevada Crash: Are Air Races Safe? Organizers said it appeared mechanical failure with the P-51 Mustang — a class of fighter plane that can fly in excess of 800 kilometres an hour — was to blame. Next week is “Street Vibrations”. It's a tight-knit family," Houghton said. Crawl into your padded room and takes a wing off an airplane, just like when I saw that happen to an AT-6 at Reno years ago. But I do not want some bleeding heart safety If we begin to outlaw whatever is currently viewed as dangerous, when will we stop? Then dont watch, just because you can’t handle it doesnt mean others should be restricted from doing what they want. I grew up attending at least a half-dozen air shows every season, both the big military shows and the smaller private ones. It should be noted that many, many airshows are held each year without a single fatality, but the fact that the accidents that do happen are often so terrible tends to draw attention away from that fact. (AP) Our goal is to create a safe and engaging place … When Reno's Stead Air Force Base was closed in 1966, it was turned over to the city and renamed Stead Airfield, which has been the site of the Reno National Air Races ever since. But as far as I am concerned, TV, movies, and video games these days are getting far worse. it. No citizen has free choice since we are all governed by the majority. May 18, 2007: Capt. Lets ge rid of trains Is it dangerous? Authorities have identified seven of the 10 people who died following a crash at an air show in Reno, Nevada, on Friday. Veteran Hollywood stunt pilot Jimmy Leeward was killed as the aircraft hit the tarmac, while it appears the other deaths were caused by flying debris. The three deaths this week bring to 18 the number of people killed in crashes in the 44-year history of the Reno Air Races; before Tuesday, though, there hadn’t been a fatality in five years. fatalities. especially air racing. 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