I use a manual tiler because I find that dynamic ones often don't have the layouts that I use (because I use weird layouts.) Awesome WM vs i3 So, I'm interested in trying out a tiling window manager for my laptop. [–]jdost 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). 下面介绍五款 Linux 平铺窗口管理器:i3、sway、Qtile、dwm、awesome,同时提供在 Fedora 系统中如何安装它们。在 Linux 桌面生态中有多种窗口管理器(WM)。有些是作为桌面环境的一部分开发 i3 is a tiling window manager designed for X11, inspired by wmii and written in C. It supports tiling, stacking, and tabbing layouts, which it handles dynamically. Mouse window movement is easier for me too, I can Mod+Right Click drag windows to different locations and monitors. I’ve been using i3wm for the longest time, and I thought I finally found my call. Lua is not even a programming language, so it should be much easier to read and learn than other programming languages. I’ve found that on a laptop that I connect and disconnect to external monitors freely, i3 is more dynamic and allows me to preserve my tiling layouts as I move around. After two weeks on AwesomeWM, how a I getting along with it? The only thing I really miss from awesome is the ability to have a floating workspace. I have recently installed the i3 tiling window manager [1] on my Ubuntu system and I'm trying to figure out how to copy & paste between various terminal and application windows. There are many tiling wm available out there like awesome, notion but I chose i3 because of its popularity and because some of my friends use it. [–]thegreatlionws 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). So, if I just keep creating windows, I may just have a bunch of really thin vertical splits (or, in my WM of choice, a binary partitioned spiral). Awesome also saved me the ~20 vertical pixels usually devoted to titlebars by incorporating them into the panel, which is very welcome on a 1024x600px screen. answered Because installing a Linux distro is out of the scope of this guide, i'm not going to go over that..PLUS there is already plenty of documentation out there. I had a lot of trouble working out clearly what each module does, because the descriptions seemed really vague. On one hand, I really liked Awesome's behavior, specifically the ability to control which tabs are shown, and the ability to have several tabs/workspaces shown on the same screen at once. Asked: Most of my understanding of what the different LUA objects are and what to do with them was pieced together by reading the rather cryptic online documentation and experimenting in awesome-client. There’s not a Linux distribution out there that doesn’t have it in the package repositories. v-split, h-split. At work so can't check immediately, but from memory it defaults to just mod+click. YMMV of course, and full disclosure, I say this with all the bias of an i3 fan. In i3, the only option seemed to only have them, or not. I converted from Awesome and will update this as I discover more: As far as NVidia binary blob is concerned, it's only recently that it's got better when they (NVidia) introduced full xrandr support in their beta driver. i3 是最受欢迎的平铺窗口管理器之一。与大多数其他此类 WM 一样,i3 专注于低资源消耗和用户可定制性。 您可以参考 Magazine 上的这篇文章了解 i3 安装细节以及如何配置它。 sway. Awesome is great on a netbook where I usually have only 1, sometimes 2 windows on screen at a time, but I found that the predefined layouts were cumbersome with this much screen space. Some of the issues against stuff like i3 and awesome are the lack of built in status bar or tray. What are the differences between i3 and awesome? For my desktop, I tend to have many more windows open per-desktop and find Awesome better for me. I actually really like tiling WMs on my netbook because they give you a lot of fullscreen options which is mostly what I want on a 10 inch screen. Awesome gives each monitor an independant set of tags while i3 keeps a total of 9 workspaces to be shared between all monitors. using the keyboard needs some adaption at first but is faster than using the mouse after a few sessions. Try mixing the two, [–]d2biG 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children). One big thing I missed with i3 was the window navigation. As an avid i3 user I still recommend you check your options, as this is the proper way to do it. I've been learning haskell the last months so using xmonad is just a big plus. Verdict: A very nice window manager, and a dream for anyone who likes tinkering and customizing - the options are literally endless, if you're willing to put some effort into it. On first start (and on all following starts, unless you have a configuration file), i3 will offer you to create a configuration file. Getting started with the i3 tiling window manager. I don't why you say that it's a lot of work. Keep that in mind. Empty workspaces are removed. Installing i3. Not ideal, but I find it quick to reassign windows quickly to other work spaces, [–]slycurgus 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (2 children), the default binds for these are j/k/l/; (navigate containers) and Shift+(j/k/l/;) for move containers. The use of Lua just means you can be much more pickier about behavior. Kde vs i3 Kde vs i3. i3 does not have the extensibility supplied by Awesome. The fact it can be setup quickly without patching+recompiling (dwm) or learning a new language, API, 3nd party libraries is very appealing. To install i3, enter the command: sudo pacman -S i3-wm To install a status bar and screen-locker for i3, enter the command: sudo pacman -S i3lock i3status Итак, что бы предпочел лоровец - i3, awesome или openbox (с каким-то тайлингом, ибо хочу тайлинг)? Using the multi-platform toolkit Qt, the flexible extensions of KDE Frameworks plus the power of Plasma Shell, Plasma Mobile is built with technology which feels equally at home on the desktop and mobile. Yes, because you can configure the tiles to have very thin or no borders. Window re-sizing is more intuitive in Awesome, for me anyway. Not as flexible as Awesome, but it provides all the functionality I personally need right now right out of the box. The i3 window manager is the tiling manager for me. Yes the learning curve of extensible programs is steeper, and their docs go deeper, but this is what power-users prefer. in your i3 config to do it as a keybinding. These are based on a 2 axis navigation structure, or the container object's structure. Discord becomes laggy during long voice calls, Problems installing NVIDIA driver (surprisingly..) for RTX 3090, Secondary screen setup xrandr says configure crtc 1 failed, Cannot connect to hidden 2.4GHz network with iwctl, trouble with arch shutting down too slowly and the Slice=-.slice command. For those who have used Tiling window managers longer than I have, what do you think of them? Awesome was the first window manager to be ported to use the asynchronous XCB library instead of XLib, making it much more responsive than most other window managers. Navigating between windows and tags in Awesome is easy, and it's also pretty easy to set up automatic tag management (add terminals to tag 2, firefox to 3, music player to 9 etc). The window layout isn't just a layout, it morphs and changes according to your needs at any given moment. Tiling WM's are great on big screens because they really let you use all that space fully. [–]TheGuyWithFace[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child). That part wasn't making a whole lot of sense to me. The drawback is that it takes a non trivial amount of work to add the bars versus some of the simple built in stuff for other WM. I created a layout detection function that returned a list of layouts based on the ratio of the monitor resolution (portrait vs. landscape). Awesome. I used AwesomeWM for a about a year on my netbook, and I still love it. As a developer, I value these features, as I can use the extra capacity to power my favorite development tools or test stuff locally using containers or virtual machines. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: and join one of thousands of communities. Yes. i tired awesome (not knowing lua) and fell in love. Most WM put a pretty good sized decoration of 20 - 30 pixels wide as the title bar on the window, plus the decorations on the bottom as well. much cleaner config syntax. (Yes, it's annoying that it's not h/j/k/l, i rebound them..). [–]Chingzilla 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (11 children). That being said, it seems to be missing some of the functionality I really loved with Awesome. I guess what constitutes a programming language can be a little pedantic, I take the stance on wikipedia. Hybrid. i3 is a simple window manager with tiling, floating and other window sorting features. Really lightweight, fast, easy to configure, very good support for dualscreen setup (the best I think). (That is, the ability to have windows from several different tabs/workspaces showing at the same time). The size of the deps on xmonad doesn't matter to me because it is fast and super configurable. When comparing awesome vs i3, the Slant community recommends i3 for most people. Same for moving windows using the keyboard. awesome — a dwm derivative with window tiling, floating and tagging, written in C and configurable and extensible in Lua. Do you want it to do exactly and precisely what you want, or are you willing to tolerate it doing things you don't like so long as they aren't too iritating? dwm — allows for switching tiling layouts by clicking a textual ascii art 'icon' in the status bar. You can freely (and really easily) customise the windows layout exactly how you want it. The 2 most important reasons why I choose i3wm over Awesome are: answered It sounds like he is after having an entire workspace floating, which in turn can have multiple tiles/tabs etc in it, which all move at once. One is dynamic (awesome), the other manual (i3). Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Specifically: how to set it up, configure it, basic navigation, and more! © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Might need a little tweaking to get it working how you expect, though. i gave it a shot for about 2 weeks last month and didnt really care for it. it adds the ability of creating something totally custom very simply. However, you can create an infinite amount of workspaces without having to define them, you just switch to them and i3 will create it if it doesn't exist. i3 is primarily targeted at advanced users and developers. Next, I loaded a boat-load of Windows managers into the MX distro: i3, Awesome, Xmonad, Lxde, Jwm, Icewm, Fvwm, Dwm, Fluxbox, Lxqt, and Enlightenment. Try Manjaro without modifying your current operating system. i3 is arguably the most popular tiling window manager available, and notable for using a single, completely self-contained configuration file. [–]maskegger 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children). It has the advantage of compatibility with an existing i3 configuration, so you can use it to replace i3 and use Wayland as the display protocol. Configuration is achieved via plain text file and extending i3 is possible using its Unix domain socket and JSON based IPC interface from many programming languages.. Like wmii, i3 uses a control system very similar to that of vi. However, you can tell new windows where to appear: split this one horizontally, and put the new window below. When screen space is at a premium, minimizing waste is too. [–]kingpatzer 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (6 children). [–]hemite 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children). Have a look at the screencast, the userguide and try it on your machine to see for yourself if i3 is a better fit for your needs than other window managers :). Does it make sense to use tiling WM on a netbook? Oh yeah, i3 does run really light. Consider this -- if every window border is a minimum of 5 pixels, and your screen is a lowely 1024 across, then each window you have open is wasting almost 1% ((5+5)/1024 = 0.0097...) of your screen space. Browse other questions tagged i3-wm or ask your own question. All content here is read-only. The function in the end was only a few lines of code, but took a lot of trial-and-error to get working. Can write internal state to a FIFO. i3 also allows for things like moving a tag from one screen to the next. I'm not sure why it's as popular as it is or what niche in the ecosystem it's filling that isn't filled better by something else. i3 exists virtually everywhere, on every Linux distribution. I still like to have the windows titles still visible. The tabbed and stacked container layouts are also very nice. In manual, you specify how a new window will appear, or a simpler heuristic is used. AwesomeWM sports superior flexibility and in my experience a lower learning threshold, i3 has superior documentation and very easy configuration. Upcoming Events Intro to command line (part 4) in 2 days. bspwm. 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